Episode 13

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Published on:

20th Feb 2024

How I cut my podcast production time in half! (Using AI)

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The grind of show notes writing. Ugh!

We've all been there as podcasters - endlessly spinning our wheels, burning the midnight oil while editing, writing and publishing.

But guess what?

I've figured out how to hack my podcast production time in half, and I'm going to share the secret with you.

And yes, you'll perhaps be unsurprised to learn there's some AI involved in the mix.

Around six months ago, I discovered this tool that absolutely transformed how I get things done. It was recommended to me by a friend at a podcasting event, and roll forward to the next year, and it's well and truly integrated into my workflow.

But it's not just another AI tool; it's a genuine virtual assistant, banishing the grind of post-production show notes and admin to the podcasting desert.

By the time you've finished listening, you'll be armed with a solid grip on how to weave decent AI seamlessly into your own podcasting process.

I'll tell you all about the tools to avoid, too.

A game-changer for your podcast workflow

I'm talking major upgrades in efficiency and an arsenal of tricks to deliver knockout content that truly resonates with listeners.

We'll discuss why the long haul matters and how the 'compound interest of content' can launch your reach to new heights.

Let's ditch those fleeting chart metrics that I keep nagging you to ignore, and instead focus on building a rock-solid community and stretching your voice across multiple platforms for maximum impact and growth.

You'll get the inside scoop on how a true crime podcaster completely transformed their show with this tool, Cast Magic.

But don't just take my word for it!

Greg Wasserman joins me to share more insights on how AI can lift your productivity.

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Here's the link to the story about Spotify currently building AI versions of its hosts for ad reads, according to the Bill Simmons Podcast

Timestamps

00:00 AI streamlines, enhances, personalizes podcast content creation.

05:18 AI empowers podcast content creation for 2024.

08:43 Challenges of using chat GBT versus cast manager.

12:01 Castmagic: AI platform for audio/video presets.

15:31 Consistency in content pays off in long-term.

19:35 Create show notes and social promotions for content.

22:43 Podcasting magic empowers all aspects of podcasting.

23:49 Leverage technology for wider audience engagement.

26:46 AI transforms podcasting, automates, enhances, personalizes content.

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AI is now all over podcasting, and believe

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it or not, this voice intro is

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aigenerated. But is it good enough to

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unleash in the wild? In this episode, I'm going to tell you

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how I cut my podcast workflow in half, and

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how you can too.

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There's a massive change happening in podcast

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content production driven by new technology.

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Yep, you guessed it. Thanks to AI in

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podcasting, these new tools are revolutionizing the

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way that we podcasters create, edit, and publish our

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content. And I wanted to talk to you today about the ways

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AI is altering our industry, particularly at

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the indie end. So right now, we're going to explore the

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wider implications of AI in podcasting and talk

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about the best tools right now for you.

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Using AI in podcasting to halve production

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time AI's recent surge

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has created endless possibilities for content

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creators. In the context of podcast production,

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AI is streamlining processes,

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enhancing content quality, sort

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of, and even introducing interactive elements to

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the listening experience. The real AI gold,

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though, is in its ability to personalize content,

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making each piece of media feel custom made for

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your listener. And that's down to the prompting parameters. You're

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taking time over carefully. Creating it

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exhibits an uncanny ability to analyze and learn from

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your previous user behavior, making it an invaluable

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tool for podcasters to tailor their content to audience

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preferences. AI is also proving to be an invaluable tool

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in content prep and creation. Various

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software packages such as chat, GPT, copy,

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AI, and Jasper are being employed by podcasters

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to generate show notes, episode summaries,

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titles, and even your social media promotional stuff,

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revolutionizing your audio editing with AI. Is it

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possible AI algorithms are getting better

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at automatically editing audio files, improving the

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quality of them, and removing background noise or adjusting volume

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levels of different speakers? It's not perfect,

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but it's good. Now look, I'm an experienced,

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professional podcaster with a distinct competitive edge

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in audio engineering due to my sheer experience in it.

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I've been dabbling with Adobe audition for more than

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two decades, since it was known as Cooledit Pro. But

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remember, this now is a significant advantage

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for Podmaster looking to improve the overall sound

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quality of their rather amateurish sounding podcast

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episodes, especially when you're faced with limited experience and

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tighter budgets. Tools like Orphonic have been

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popular with some DIY indie podcasters for some time now, thanks

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to their ability to speed up the editing and quality improvement

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process. But you've now got even more accessible

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solutions like the AI studio sound tool in

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descript, and I definitely would suggest avoiding

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using it at 100% level also, a nod here to

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Adobe podcast. Yes, their noise

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reduction tool can be extremely impressive if

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you're using it sparingly. And believe me, we

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can absolutely tell when you're relying on it. It

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doesn't sound great, trust me. So don't run it over

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all your audio and video content willy nilly.

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So let's talk more about the AI advantage in

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podcast personalization. Look, we're jumping

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ahead a bit here. AI's forte lies in its ability

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to personalize your content, but we're not quite there yet. We are getting

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closer. Adtech is really leaning into this.

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Essentially, AI can detect the kind of content each

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listener prefers, making it easier for podcasters

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to tailor their content accordingly. But it's not been unleashed on the

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wild yet. This is all running in the back end with many company

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systems. There are platforms such as audioburst that are already

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using this sort of stuff for big brands to create more

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engaging audio experiences that are more in line with what they think their

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listeners want to hear. On the video side of things, we've got tools like

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Choppity and capcut. Some of these have got pretty advanced

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features that can make your clips, to quote Gen Z's

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pop in your feed. Descript

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offers a way to automate this process, too, but a

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little bit clunky, to be honest, and it requires a lot of trial and

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error. Also, AI can be used to personalize the podcast

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listening experience. For instance, Spotify is currently

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building AI versions of its hosts for ad reads. That's

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at least according to the Bill Simmons podcast, which I've linked in the

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description. The potential here, let's be honest, is immense.

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In the future, a host might address a listener by

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their name in a much more personalized ad just for

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them. But let's go back to the power of AI

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in content creation. Right now, in 2024,

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one of the most popular use cases for AI in podcasting is

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assisting with content creation. On the back end, AI

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tools can generate show notes, episode summaries, episode titles,

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episode structures, even social media assets,

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and even blog posts, medium articles,

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newsletter sendouts, platforms like

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Castmagic, which is a tool specifically

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designed and built for podcasters to generate

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helpful copy related to podcast episodes. They're paving the way

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in this domain. Also, AI can aid in creating

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thematic playlists, creating compilations of episodes based on

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specific topics or genres, and enabling listeners to

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explore podcasts with similar themes easily. Now,

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we'll talk more about Castmagic in a second, but let's talk about the

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no brainer approach overall of

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aipowered transcripts I mean, let's be honest about it,

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this is a minimum now for podcasters. These

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aipowered transcription services like Rev and Otter have

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been transforming the podcast industry recently. These services have

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been using AI and natural language processing to transcribe

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audio into a text format, automatically

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creating subtitles or captions for viewers with hearing

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impairments, and generating the basis for SEO friendly

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content. But that's the 2021

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solution. Just the transcript alone that's helping

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with about 10% of the problem. Now it's a must. You should

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be doing a transcript as a bare minimum. Tools like cast

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magic and to a slightly lesser extent

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capshow are taking this one step further in

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that they're actually helping to simplify the process,

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drilling down into specific themes. I chatted with Greg at

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Castmagic to get more insight for you about their tool

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so you can hear the value offering for yourself.

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Castmagic started as two guys who are running their

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own vc backed companies, had a podcast. Like, we don't have

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the time to run our companies. Going back to the same story, like, you are

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doing more than just a podcast. So it's like, I can't do this. So they

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were able to build cast magic for their own needs, and since

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they've built it for their own needs, they understand like, well,

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we are the users of this, so how do we make it easier for us,

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better for us? And now you've got the scale of our entire

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communities able to say, like, hold on, this is how I'm using it. And you're

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like, oh, I didn't even think about that. Great, I'm going to build

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that into the tool and make it even better for me. But it's also then

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better for you. So it's kind of cool to see that happen.

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So you might have already answered my next question. It sounds

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like it's kind of proprietary, this technology. So

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that then would lend itself to already addressing

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the whole thing of, well, what's to stop me just going in Chat

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GPT and setting up some prompts to get the show notes

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written for me by Chat GPT? It goes back to, why

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did they even start it? Because they tried doing it themselves in chat GBT. And

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you're like, there's limitations, at least right now to chat GBT.

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You can go ahead and do it, but let's go back to

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the average user, right? I have so much going on,

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how am I going to spend the time to set up this tool in

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chat GBT to do all the things that a tool like cast manager is going

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to do? Is that best use of your time? Look,

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if you've got the time, great. But then I'll take it back a step further

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and go, okay, the three questions that podmaster always ask me was, how do I

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get more distribution, how do I grow my audience and how do I monetize? Well,

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if most of them aren't even distributing their podcast across all listening

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platforms, you think that person is going to spend the time, which they're not doing

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already, to distribute their podcast, to go ahead and set up all the

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things that are going to take them the time to do in chat GBT and

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then wait, you are limited to just one tool, chat

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GBT, whereas tool like castmagic, we've got a

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UI that's on top of all these other platforms. So if chat GBT

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is not the best one and we want to work with

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Bard, or was it Genesis or something

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else, we're able to plug that in there, then you don't have to know how

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the sausage is being made. You just know things are being done for you

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and that the team's constantly iterating. And the fact that the team is

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iterating at such a fast speed, are you able to do that on chat GBT

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by yourself? You're like, oh, I got this set up for what I need it.

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But then you still stay in a box. That's kind of what I like about

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cast magic, is like, we have a community of 1000 people on slack.

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Literally come in there and start asking questions. Learns from

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others. So it's another platform that you're able to. What I love about

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podcasting is it's a rising tide, raises all ships. So podcasters

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talk and they share and so forth, not only prompts, but what tools

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you're using. So if you just try doing everything in chat GBT, you're

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missing out on efficiency, automation, and

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then technology changes for a larger scale.

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I think that's a really interesting point. That you've hit on there, actually, in terms

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of your slack community, because I'm obviously, I don't contribute as much as I should.

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I don't contribute to any slack communities. As much as I should. Who has the

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time? But what I do love about it. Is, like you say, you've got these

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threads where people are sort of saying. Oh, I tried this and it worked and

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it's great. And so unlike Chad GPT, which is

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like every six months, every year, you'll get an update from them saying, we've. Just

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added this, we've just added that. I love the fact that you guys are updating

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this as you're constantly ongoing and you're bringing new updates out

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there. You're telling people about these updates, and not only that, but you're giving them

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engineering prompts as well that they like. Here's how you can turn

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your content into, I don't know, a book, an audiobook and

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that sort of stuff. I love what you're doing there. In terms of

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that, what sort of feedback have you had from your customers

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that have used those new prompts that come along and they're adding

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them in? Because obviously you can set your own prompts, save them for future

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episodes, but the ones that you're suggesting,

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probably lifting the magician's curtain here. But are

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your prompts better than the prompts that your customers

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are putting in there themselves? And to that end,

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should people just sort of like, be following that thread and forgetting their own

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engineering? So I guess to answer that, let's take a step back and at least

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educate your listener of what is Castmagic. Right? So

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Casmagic as a whole is a platform that you take any audio or

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video recording, load it in there, and then we've

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automated, based on the profile, whether it's a podcast, a

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sales call, a coaching call, a meeting set

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presets. So that goes into your question that you're asking in terms of

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our prompts. So, like, if you are a podcaster, there's 13

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presets that in three to five minutes after uploading your

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podcast, you're going to get what I tell everyone is

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a, it's AI. So always be checking, but add

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your own spin. So we're going to create this general ideas for you.

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But then the joy is you can go into our tool called magic chat, and

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that's basically like chat GBT built in there, and you now

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can go ahead and come up with your own prompts. So that is the

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magic. If you were to go and said, all right, I'm going to take whatever

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cast magic gives me in those 13 outputs at face value,

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perfect, you could go do that. You don't want to spend more time, but

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we give you not only a community prompts section that you can go

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ahead and say, oh, I want this prompt. I've aggregated our slack

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community of favorite prompts and put it in a document. So you can go and

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put that, and then you can start asking other people, like, this is what I'm

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trying to do. So the joy is if you and I use the same

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prompt, it's always going to have a different output because our content

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is relevant to you and me. So that's what's kind of cool.

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Once again, rising tide raises all ships. We can share prompts and

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know it's not proprietary because it's

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your words that it's using the content for, or whatever that

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content you're pulling out. So I think it really opens the door

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of how do I automate this for you in three to five minutes? How do

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you automate it for yourself? By coming up with your own prompts, saving

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those so that every recording gets this prompt

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engineered as an output, and then you're able to do what

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you want. So now you have no excuse. You literally have no

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excuse to not have a blog that's been updated since August 7.

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I did it. He went there, I went there, I went there. That's a

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joy. It's like back up until

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2023. You're right. I've just got to

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focus. I've got limited focus, limited bandwidth. But now it's like if

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this is literally writing you a newsletter, a blog, a

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poem, whatever content you want, you have no excuse not to

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have your social post done, to have a blog, to have a newsletter,

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to literally start reaching all the little tentacles of your content.

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Besides, I want more downloads. More downloads. Stop thinking one trick

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pony and start thinking about how do I use automation,

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AI, and technology to truly get my message

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in front of as many eyes and ears and people as

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possible. I love it. And that newsletter thing as well. I mean, that is a

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golden opportunity. I mean, it's preaching to the choir, really, but I'm

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always trying to hammer it home to podcasters, build your community,

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because that way it takes a lot of the pressure off when you're posting on

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social media. New episode out this week, nobody cares. Or

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fewer than 1% of your target audience is actually on social

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media caring about your new episodes. Whereas with the newsletter, you can literally take that

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content, can't you, and say, look, this is what we had in the most recent

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episode. Here's a summary. I'm emailing you to let you know about it. Here's the

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embedded player. Go listen to it now. And that really changes the game,

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doesn't it, in terms of building that audience? I guess I would push back

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and go like, I think if you play the long game, and that's

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what if podcasters are so focused, I need more downloads, more

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downloads, more downloads, right. Well, that's still hopefully playing a long

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game of like, over time, the compound interest of your

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content is truly there, right? So maybe article one

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today isn't getting a lot of SEO, but if you're consistent and

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every week for 52 weeks you put out, you continue to do it, no

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different than your show. That's three years. I mean,

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think about the interest that you've now put onto your content. So

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maybe a post isn't getting a lot of likes or engagement on

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social, whether it's Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok, whatever it is.

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But that content continues to compound your brand, continues

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to be out there, you're getting new eyeballs, you play the algorithms,

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whatever it is. But if I'm having this conversation, why

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wouldn't I want to put this conversation into all the other formats that I

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can? Because who knows if I'm able to reach one person? And it really

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depends. Also, this show is about educating podcasters. But what if

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it's a self help thing? If you're able to reach just one person and

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change their life, and a person comes to you saying, thank you for sharing your

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message, you don't care if only three people listen to it.

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You reached one person and you changed your life. That's the way you have to

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be thinking about it. So if you are taking the time to record

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a conversation, make sure that you're putting that in all formats. And once

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again, while we're talking technology, AI now allows you to

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do that. In terms of different

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genres of podcast. So, obviously, this is a

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podcast for podcasters trying to bring a bit more sort of insight and education to

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new. Podcasters and current podcasters alike. You got true crime,

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you got business. You got fiction, you've got sports, you've got

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personal journeys, you got all that. Kind of stuff, like a million

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categories. I'm exaggerating. There's like 30 in Apple Podcast. But the

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point I sort of want to raise here is if I'm somebody that is doing

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something that might not lend itself so well to

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having show notes made, for example, a fictional podcast,

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because obviously what you're then doing is potentially

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leaking spoilers of what's in there. So is there

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a kind of a methodology to this where

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cast magic figures out, okay, this is a fictional podcast.

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So these are the sort of show notes we need to create for it, versus

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this is a business podcast where it can sort of lend itself to a bit

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more insight? I guess what I'm trying to say. Is,

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if you're a different kind of podcast across the genres, will the

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outputs you get from cast magic be vastly different? So

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there was a guy that reached out, and he has a pure, noble true crime

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podcast. His day

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job once again, his day job is social media and

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SEO management and he loved and used cast magic

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and uses it. And I'm like, all right, explain this one to me because I'd

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be the same. Like, why? And he's like, greg, I spent

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all this time researching, spent all this time writing a script, spent all this

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time recording. I do not want to spend more time

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on the show notes, on the social, the

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promotion. If I've got a tool that now is able to do that for

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me, why wouldn't I use that instead of I got to

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write more? I've got to figure out how to summarize this. No, let this tool

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do it for me. And then I can use my brain power of taking it

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from the 80% it gets me to the 100%. When I said that,

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I'm like, great. Then I know the use cases goes far beyond just an

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interview show. It goes into a sports, a true crime or

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anything. The specific question on your side is, do we

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understand the content that you're putting in there and therefore it's going to be better

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or tailored show notes? The answer is

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we don't actually provide show notes. Everyone does their show notes

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differently. So the 13 outputs for a podcast

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preset don't actually have a show notes. Like there's title, there's

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descriptions, there's clips and so forth. But everyone does their show notes

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differently. So we either piece those things together that we

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give you, come up with your own prompt on what show notes would look like

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for you, what a social promotion would look like for you based on the

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style of content or genre of content you've got. So that is

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really the answer. It's like you've got a true crime show and you don't like

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the 13 pieces we gave you and you don't feel that you can stitch those

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together, come up with your own prompt. And what would show notes look like for

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you? What would a blog post look like for you as a

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paranormal or a fiction podcast that you're like,

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how do I promote? No matter what, you still have to promote a fiction podcast.

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So maybe you're not giving away the this is what we talked

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about in this episode, but you still need a hook. It's no different

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than a 32nd commercial. How do we help you write that? That's the

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beauty of this, is that. There is so much ability to

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manipulate and mold the outcomes that you want from this

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tool just by being really clear with it and saying, this is what I

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want, can you give it to me? And unlike Chat GPT

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it's pretty much understanding straight away what you're looking to do. It doesn't make

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know the amount of times that you put into Chat GPT. Can you summarize

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this? And it'll just go off on one about it'll mention

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somebody completely unrelated from your episode based

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on the transcript you put in there. So that's what I love about it. Hold

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on to that point. We're only using. So cast magic is only using your

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recording. So if we go back to your previous question, like, if I use chat

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GBT, we're only focused on your

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recording, whereas if you are putting it as a consumer in chat

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GBT, it's very different than the enterprise side that we're using for

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our plugins to whatever model we're using. So

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that allows you to have less of that quote unquote phantom

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content that's coming in there, which becomes a little easier for you to go

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like, oh, I know this is only my recording versus do I have to fact

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checked it? Like, did it make up something from the outside world,

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even though I gave it my transcripts? And it's so accurate as

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well. I've joked to you privately that I. Have a client who

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has a topic area that I'm just listening to this and it

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might as well be french, and I'm literally relying on cast magic to tell me

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what it's actually saying. And nine times out of ten, it's one. One.

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No, let's be honest about it. 100% of the time, there might have been one

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or two times where I've had to slightly tweak things, but other

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than that, it's been spot on. So the amount of trust I've put into

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it and had to, and it's been brilliant. It's not let me down yet.

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So that's a definite endorsement for me for the tool in terms

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of the accuracy level that you're getting from the output. So well done, guys. On

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that, I was just going to say, obviously this show, we

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got a. Range of different types of listeners. We got people that are planning to

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do a podcast. We got people that are podcasting now but want to sort of

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up their game a bit. We got people that have been going for ages and

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ages and ages and just want a nosy on what we're talking about on

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here. For the person that is listening right now, what

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would they need to be? What does that look like? Somebody that would be the

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ideal person to use cast magic for their

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podcast production, their podcast marketing, what do they look like to

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you? I'd say anyone and everyone. So

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if you take cast magic once again, what it started off as two

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guys who had a podcast built cast magic for their own podcasting

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needs. But then we saw people are, I guess

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podcasters are people, and they're doing so much. So we've got meetings we set

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up as a preset, we've got coaching, we've got sales. We're constantly

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evolving different presets based on you as a consumer,

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as a user, as a human, on what your needs are. So whether

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it is the person who's like, I'm a hobby podcast and I'm looking to

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start this great, this is going to overcome those.

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How do I do all these things? How do I get from zero to

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one? It's overwhelming. What hosting company do I choose? What

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recording platform do I choose? How do I get all my information out there?

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Perfect. Simple. Don't overthink it. Cast magic will help you with

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repurposing. If it's the person who's been doing this and looking

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up your game, well, then, yeah, this is definitely for you. Because if you're looking

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up your game, case in point, Neil, get your blog more

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consistent. Why don't you have a consistent blog? Right? Twice.

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Twice, right. So why aren't you

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leveraging technology to help you get your message out there more?

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I'm also going to hammer you. Stop thinking just downloads. Like, if you're thinking

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monetization and the only way you can monetize is with

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downloads, you are missing out as a business opportunity. Whether you're a

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true crime show, fine. If you're a true crime show, I get it, you need

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people to listen to it. But how you engage with those people could be

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on social, can be on a blog, can be a newsletter, and go like, oh,

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this was interesting. Or how do you take the behind the scenes?

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You've seen how many tv shows have supplementary

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content that they're able to throw in there? Like, cast magic can

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help you with that if it's a true crime or a fiction show. And then

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what was the third person who just wants to know what to do and the

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technology, go play around with it. We've got a seven day free

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trial. Throw something in there, come do an onboarding call. I'll be

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the guy that leads that call. I got resources up to wazoo to try and

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help you. But once again, 2023, you have no

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excuse not to be using simple technology that

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is making your life easier so that you can do more and stop going

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like, oh, I only have 50 downloads. Can I start

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monetizing that? I'm like, yeah, you could, but if you're thinking just

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downloads and cpms or sponsorships, then you're missing

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out. If you're thinking, hold on, my newsletter has got 100 people, and my

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social has 100 people. My podcast has 100 people. Well, maybe

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there's an overlap. Maybe those are different people. Now you can go to

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a sponsor and say, hey, I've got 300 people. They're all different,

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as opposed to just 100 people for my downloads. And now you've got a package.

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Now you're selling yourself as a brand and not just a show.

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Now, in full transparency, I have linked to the tool in

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the description. This is an affiliate link. I am

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endorsing cast magic as a creator. I think it's brilliant. I use it

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myself. I use it for client shows. It is definitely going to get you

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80% of the way there with your content creation.

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It'll certainly save you time with the transcript side of things. Trust me on this.

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And it's going to be much more accurate than anything that any tool

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will be able to do on platform, including Apple

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Podcast.

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So now let's talk about some more innovative ways AI

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can help with growing our industry. How about breaking language

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barriers? AI driven language translation is

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bridging the gap between different languages, making podcast

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accessible to a global audience. This capability can

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facilitate real time translation during live shows or

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provide translated transcripts for nonnative

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speakers. This actually excites me.

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The fact that I could technically say this entire

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section in Spanish is very appealing to me.

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In fact, let's make that happen. Cast

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So what about the future implications of AI in

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podcasting? Well, while AI's current

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applications in podcasting are already quite impressive,

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the possibilities for the future are even more exciting.

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With advancements in machine learning and of course,

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natural language processing developments, we can expect

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AI to play an even more significant role in how our

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thoughts concede and grow in public.

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Imagine needing to know an answer to a specific question

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and being someone who's published that answer, then

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having your episode clip that's relevant to that query

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surfaced for them specifically.

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Wow, that's like having your own virtual

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consultant. And if v for v or

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value for value digital currency was involved,

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imagine the possibilities. Now look, I'm a bit ick about

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crypto in podcasting at the moment, but it is going to

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improve and it will be regulated at some point,

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so it can only be a good positive thing in the future.

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AI is rapidly transforming the podcasting landscape,

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automating processes, enhancing content quality,

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and offering personalized experiences. We've

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talked about descript or phonic cast

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magic. These three tools alone are game

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changers for halving your production workflow time.

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But as AI tech continues to evolve,

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the podcast industry will undoubtedly reap the

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benefits, delivering more engaging and immersive content

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to your global listeners. So whether you're a seasoned

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podmaster or a newbie diYer,

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venturing into this world of podcasting for the first time,

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embracing AI could significantly improve your

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workflow, boost your content quality, and

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heighten your listener engagement. The question

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is, are you ready to leverage it? And

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should you be adding it to your podcast production

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workflow? That's a question only you can

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answer. And as an OG

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podcaster who very much frowns

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on cheats and hacks coming into the industry,

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I was initially resistant to the idea of

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AI moving into podcasting. It's my beloved

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traditional space. How dare new tech come in

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and sully the reputation of creators within this

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space. But I've now become aware of

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how it can help me to generate more content that

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helps more of my ideal listeners and viewers

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like you. So shouldn't we be

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embracing this as it helps us to do our jobs more

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rapidly and at a higher volume? Again,

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that's a question only you can answer for yourself. The podmaster

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Pro tip engaging directly with your audience by incorporating

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their voices and stories into your podcast

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can significantly enhance listener engagement and

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loyalty. This strategy not only

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diversifies the content of your podcast, but it also builds a

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community around it by making your audience feel seen and

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heard. Here's an idea of how to effectively incorporate

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your listener contributions. Add a voicemail or

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voice messaging tool to your website, or

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just use a special podcast website builder like

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podcast page or podpage links to

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both of these tools in the description

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global ranking stats to compare your podcast

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with it's time once again for those all important

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download numbers, which will give you an idea of the

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percentage ranking of your podcast compared with

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others. If you want to be considered a top 50%

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podcaster globally, your podcast episode needs

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to be getting 160 downloads within the first

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30 days of its release, you'll want

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3200 downloads within 30 days of release for

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your episode. If you want your podcast to be considered in the top

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10% globally, top 5%

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7500 downloads top 2%

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20,000 downloads and if you want to be a

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genuine top 1% podcaster, your latest

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episode needs to get 36,000

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downloads within the first 30 days of its release.

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Well, that's it for this latest episode of the Podmaster

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About the Podcast

The Podmaster: podcasting growth advice and insights for people and brands
Guiding you towards podcasting mastery
I'm 'The Podmaster', here to help you with podcasting growth advice and insights, whether you're a brand or an individual who's looking to grow your podcast and attain 'podmastery'.

My name is Neal Veglio and I've been in the podcasting game since 2001, when I became the first person in the UK to upload audio of my then radio show online, and generate an audience.

This audience followed me throughout my radio career and engaged with my various other podcasts.

But it wasn't always easy.

And when I took a career break from radio for a few years in 2007, I had to learn how to build audience without the lift of an FM frequency.

I now help other podcasters to achieve their goals through my company Podknows Podcasting.

Each episode, I'll be offering you some insights into what I've done and what I've helped my clients do with our podcasts in the hope we can help YOU increase your podcast's chances of becoming more successful!

And ensuring you can avoid the dreaded 'podfade'!

About your host

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Neal Veglio

As the UK's longest serving podcaster (having started in 2001 before it was even known as a 'thing') I've seen a lot of changes to the industry. Having launched more than 100 podcasts over the years, I help brands and entrepreneurs to get their marketing messaging out 'in the wild', but in a compelling, not boring way.